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David B. (21.01.2019, 00:25)
The page in question is THIS one:-



As you'll see, it's about an anti-virus software for Apple machines.
nospam (21.01.2019, 00:39)
In article <Pz61E.46103$xn2.7559>, David B. <
B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> The page in question is THIS one:-


not again.
Jaimie Vandenbergh (21.01.2019, 07:08)
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 22:25:49 +0000, "David B." <"David
B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>The page in question is THIS one:-
>
>As you'll see, it's about an anti-virus software for Apple machines.


.... and?

Cheers - Jaimie
Exiled Poacher (21.01.2019, 10:29)
On 2019-01-20, nospam <nospam> wrote:
> In article <Pz61E.46103$xn2.7559>, David B. <
> B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> The page in question is THIS one:-


After years of using Mac anti-virus software including ClamXav, I
came to the conclusion that none is needed provided you ensure you
keep your Mac up to date with the macos version you are using plus
the latest Apple security updates.
Tim Streater (21.01.2019, 12:27)
In article <Pz61E.46103$xn2.7559>, David B. <
B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>The page in question is THIS one:-
>
>As you'll see, it's about an anti-virus software for Apple machines.


Sensible people don't use any and rely on Apple's built in protection.
End of.
David B. (21.01.2019, 12:33)
On 21/01/2019 10:27, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <Pz61E.46103$xn2.7559>, David B. <
> B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> Sensible people don't use any and rely on Apple's built in protection.
> End of.


Personally, I think it's a scam!

Did you notice the number of followers there are on that Facebook page?
David B. (21.01.2019, 13:01)
On 21/01/2019 10:33, David B. wrote:
> On 21/01/2019 10:27, Tim Streater wrote:
> Personally, I think it's a scam!
> Did you notice the number of followers there are on that Facebook page?


It says "376 people follow this".

Compare to the 891,943 here:

or to 3,353,654 here:

My friend (real life) Jon got short shrift when he asked questions
there. I'd be most interested to learn what transpires if other folk
could spare a few minutes to 'test the water' as it were!

And yes, you'll find unanswered questions from me there too! ;-)
Exiled Poacher (21.01.2019, 13:05)
On 2019-01-21, David B. <"DavidB"> wrote:
> On 21/01/2019 10:27, Tim Streater wrote:
> Personally, I think it's a scam!
> Did you notice the number of followers there are on that Facebook page?


I don't think it's a scam. Their web page
looks OK and has a link to the facebook page you mentioned. But as stated earlier
you'should be OK with Apple's offerings.
Richard Tobin (21.01.2019, 13:16)
In article <slrnq4b9sa.1bk.exiledpoacher>,
Exiled Poacher <exiledpoacher> wrote:

>I don't think it's a scam. Their web page
> looks OK and has a link to the
>facebook page you mentioned. But as stated earlier you'should be OK
>with Apple's offerings.


"Keep in touch with all things ClamXAV"

Who could possibly care about such stuff? Their mothers perhaps?

-- Richard
Jaimie Vandenbergh (21.01.2019, 13:35)
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:16:01 +0000 (UTC), richard
(Richard Tobin) wrote:

>In article <slrnq4b9sa.1bk.exiledpoacher>,
>Exiled Poacher <exiledpoacher> wrote:
> "Keep in touch with all things ClamXAV"
>Who could possibly care about such stuff? Their mothers perhaps?


It's standard "social engagement" bollocks phrasing, which'll be
mandated (or copied) by the website marketing types.

The actual answer is "a very small count of IT sysadmins".

The product itself has some utility in mixed environments with local Mac
storage in use where non-Mac malware might be floating about, as it'll
find and quarantine non-Mac-targeting stuff that the Apple provided
antimalware won't bother touching.

For corporate locations who have written themselves into a "must have
3rd party AV products on all personal machines" hole, it's a reasonable
choice and pleasingly inoffensive in terms of system usage.

Cheers - Jaimie
David B. (21.01.2019, 13:50)
On 21/01/2019 11:35, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
[..]
> For corporate locations who have written themselves into a "must have
> 3rd party AV products on all personal machines" hole, it's a reasonable
> choice and pleasingly inoffensive in terms of system usage.


Interesting comments, Jamie. Thank you.

Tell me, though .....

How can you be sure that by installing the software, one isn't loading
malicious items *ON* to one's computer?

As an ordinary 'user', one would never know - in MY opinion anyway!
Jaimie Vandenbergh (21.01.2019, 16:29)
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:50:48 +0000, "David B." <"David
B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>How can you be sure that by installing the software, one isn't loading
>malicious items *ON* to one's computer?
>As an ordinary 'user', one would never know - in MY opinion anyway!


This has always been true, and is a facile observation. All software is
potentially dangerous, even if you type it in and compile it yourself if
you're not fully conversant with the code. What of it?

On a Mac we have various builtin tools to warn the user if an app isn't
signed with a known-good developer account, or flat out refuse to run it
which I think is the current default. Apple also maintains and
distributes a blacklist of file signatures to internet-connected Macs.
Windows10 comes with something similar. None of this is infallible, of
course.

Do you have a thesis to go along with your statement?

Cheers - Jaimie
David B. (21.01.2019, 16:37)
On 21/01/2019 14:29, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
[..]
> Windows10 comes with something similar. None of this is infallible, of
> course.
> Do you have a thesis to go along with your statement?


Yes, Jaimie

Humour me. Accept the 'Free Trial' - personally - and watch what happens.

I'll go and look for my discussion on the ASC forums.
Jaimie Vandenbergh (21.01.2019, 16:47)
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:37:56 +0000, "David B." <"David
B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>On 21/01/2019 14:29, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
>Yes, Jaimie
>Humour me. Accept the 'Free Trial' - personally - and watch what happens.
>I'll go and look for my discussion on the ASC forums.


I'm not putting pointless AV on my Mac. I'll do many things on a whim (I
have good backups several layers deep) but not something I don't want
that needs a kernel/fs hook to work.

Cheers - Jaimie
David B. (21.01.2019, 17:04)
On 21/01/2019 14:47, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:37:56 +0000, "David B." <"David
> B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> I'm not putting pointless AV on my Mac. I'll do many things on a whim (I
> have good backups several layers deep) but not something I don't want
> that needs a kernel/fs hook to work.


How do you KNOW what will happen if you click on the 'Free Trial' button?

Won't you be given a CHOICE of whether or not to INSTALL the software?

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