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TimW (08.03.2018, 21:32)
I have no idea what is happening or why but the auctions i am taking
part in are all beset with newly registered bidders that don't pay. ebay
seem totally unwilling or unable to deal with it. Sellers are saying
they have to relist items 2, 3, or 4 times before they get a genuine buyer.

I am not sure I am going to bother with ebay if this isn't fixed. Does
anyone know what is going on? Are these bots? is there a scam? It can't
be done for a laugh - I mean, it isn't all that funny the third time.

TW
TimW (09.03.2018, 00:56)
On 08/03/18 19:32, TimW wrote:
> I have no idea what is happening or why but the auctions i am taking
> part in are all beset with newly registered bidders that don't pay. ebay
> seem totally unwilling or unable to deal with it. Sellers are saying
> they have to relist items 2, 3, or 4 times before they get a genuine buyer.
> I am not sure I am going to bother with ebay if this isn't fixed. Does
> anyone know what is going on? Are these bots? is there a scam? It can't
> be done for a laugh - I mean, it isn't all that funny the third time.
> TW


I am looking here for instance:

at laptops. It's a busy category so at this time of an evening there is
an auction finishing every minute or two. About half of them have a
single winning bid at the last minute from a zero feedback id that has
made a lot of single bids today and has bought three laptops a macbook a
router some memory a docking station and a second hand battery.

it's that bad. Looks like bots. I am not bidding for anything - even if
you win the auction the price has been inflated.

TW
TimW (09.03.2018, 02:25)
On 08/03/18 22:56, TimW wrote:
[..]
> it's that bad. Looks like bots. I am not bidding for anything - even if
> you win the auction the price has been inflated.
> TW


And had a look at the ebay community discussion Boards.

Since 12 months ago some parts of ebay have really ceased to function as
an auction site because of the fake bidders. ebay doing nothing about
it, trade sellers have to use BIN instead of auction, nobody knows why
there seems to be this prolonged attempt to damage ebay, lots of weird
conspiracy theories. Very strange.
TW
JoeJoe (09.03.2018, 16:39)
On 09/03/2018 00:25, TimW wrote:
> On 08/03/18 22:56, TimW wrote:
> And had a look at the ebay community discussion Boards.
> Since 12 months ago some parts of ebay have really ceased to function as
> an auction site because of the fake bidders. ebay doing nothing about
> it, trade sellers have to use BIN instead of auction, nobody knows why
> there seems to be this prolonged attempt to damage ebay, lots of weird
> conspiracy theories. Very strange.
> TW


i don't sell much, but my last two were similar: one was won by a last
minute bidder who never made any contact, the other by someone who only
made contact when I started the non-paying process who said that he had
changed his mind...

Since then, unless I try to sell something very uncommon, I simply use
Gumtree instead which has been pain free so far (and saves me the the
rather extortionate eBay/PayPal fees).
The Older Gentleman (09.03.2018, 20:29)
JoeJoe <no> wrote:

> i don't sell much, but my last two were similar: one was won by a last
> minute bidder who never made any contact, the other by someone who only
> made contact when I started the non-paying process who said that he had
> changed his mind...


I don't get these problems with old motorcycle parts.

I do get the odd cunt buyer, like this week. Won some throttle cables:
reckoned the end of one was frayed (though I never noticed anything).

Cunt didn't contact me but immediately launched an eBay dispute, which
was the first I knew of it. I messaged him and said I had a replacement
set, or he could keep the faulty ones and I'd just do a refund, rather
than pay the return postage as well, but aforesaid cunt is ignoring all
messages and emails.

Cunt. Dd I say that before?
Bertie Doe (09.03.2018, 23:25)
"JoeJoe" wrote in message
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On 09/03/2018 00:25, TimW wrote:
> On 08/03/18 22:56, TimW wrote:
>i don't sell much, but my last two were similar: one was won by a last
>minute bidder who never made any contact, the other by someone who only
>made contact when I started the non-paying process who said that he had
>changed his mind...


Am I right in thinking that the vast majority bad buyers are using 'throw
away' email addys like, gmail, hotmail, yahoomail etc? If Ebay banned the
use of throw aways, wouldn't it cut down the volume of buyer abuse or
possibly fraud? Referring to Theo's thread (below) the new Spring price
hikes by Ebay, shouldn't they be giving the seller, a better service?

Question. If you the seller, insist that only peeps with Paypal can bid,
wouldn't this kill off the bots and bogus buyers? Paypal require the buyers
bank details and proper email address.
M2T (10.03.2018, 00:47)
On 09/03/2018 21:25, Bertie Doe wrote:

> Question. If you the seller, insist that only peeps with Paypal can bid,
> wouldn't this kill off the bots and bogus buyers? Paypal require the
> buyers bank details and proper email address.


PP doesn't require a 'proper' email address. You can open a PP account
and bid for stuff with it, without there being any money in the account.

I reckon Ebay are aiming to become a shop, auctions take time, BIDs are
instant. They must be making plenty of money out of the likes of Argos,
Dixons, etc. Plenty of high value instant sales. Why fuck around with
£2 items?
Raj Kundra (10.03.2018, 15:09)
On 08/03/2018 19:32, TimW wrote:
> I have no idea what is happening or why but the auctions i am taking
> part in are all beset with newly registered bidders that don't pay.
> ebay seem totally unwilling or unable to deal with it. Sellers are
> saying they have to relist items 2, 3, or 4 times before they get a
> genuine buyer.
> I am not sure I am going to bother with ebay if this isn't fixed. Does
> anyone know what is going on? Are these bots? is there a scam? It
> can't be done for a laugh - I mean, it isn't all that funny the third
> time.
> TW


I had 10 in last few weeks, always bid in last minute.

I noticed simple trend that all their e mails end with outlook.com.com

Then a day later E bay system informs you that this bidder is not e bay
user any more, how pathetic for multi billion pond corporation.

It is not rocket science to add checks to check legit e mail address and
home address etc, but seems like E bay are not interested, because it
makes them more money.
TimW (13.03.2018, 01:54)
On 10/03/18 13:09, Raj Kundra wrote:
> On 08/03/2018 19:32, TimW wrote:
> I had 10 in last few weeks, always bid in last minute.
> I noticed simple trend that all their e mails end with outlook.com.com
> Then a day later E bay system informs you that this bidder is not e bay
> user any more, how pathetic for multi billion pond corporation.
> It is not rocket science to add checks to check legit e mail address and
> home address etc, but seems like E bay are not interested, because it
> makes them more money.


That is exactly what I mean. there is a lat about it which is
incomprehensible - like ebay not doing anything about it for instance.
Meanwhile it is impossible to buy and sell in some categories.
TW
Rob Morley (14.03.2018, 23:23)
On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 22:47:00 +0000
M2T <M2T> wrote:

> I reckon Ebay are aiming to become a shop, auctions take time, BIDs
> are instant. They must be making plenty of money out of the likes of
> Argos, Dixons, etc. Plenty of high value instant sales. Why fuck
> around with £2 items?


That seems to have been the case for years now. Although the major
sellers are big enough to run their own online shops without giving
eBay a slice; a few of them could get together to build a front end
that collates products from across those shops into an online mega-
store.
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