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Folderol (09.07.2019, 19:22)
Does anyone know of one that will definitely work on Linux and with a reasonably
sensible driver?

The last one I tried was a nightmare to configure and would only work with
kernel 2.4
Jim Lesurf (10.07.2019, 10:39)
In article <20190709182250.7c022706@devuan>, Folderol
<general> wrote:
> Does anyone know of one that will definitely work on Linux and with a
> reasonably sensible driver?


> The last one I tried was a nightmare to configure and would only work
> with kernel 2.4


I'm not clear what type of "wireless dongle" you mean. Do you mean one
which lets you connect to a wireless home network? Or something else like a
'radio' dongle to act as a general purpose receiver? Or?..

Jim
Folderol (10.07.2019, 12:35)
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 09:39:09 +0100
Jim Lesurf <noise> wrote:

>In article <20190709182250.7c022706@devuan>, Folderol
><general> wrote:
>I'm not clear what type of "wireless dongle" you mean. Do you mean one
>which lets you connect to a wireless home network? Or something else like a
>'radio' dongle to act as a general purpose receiver? Or?..
>Jim


Sorry, it's for connection to a home router's wireless output.

The laptop is *supposed* to have built-in wireless capability, but it's never
been possible to get Linux to recognise it - and many people have tried!

When at home, I can use the Ethernet port, but it's when travelling I need
wireless.
Jim Lesurf (10.07.2019, 15:13)
In article <20190710113539.5053cc02@devuan>, Folderol
<general> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 09:39:09 +0100 Jim Lesurf <noise>
> wrote:


> >I'm not clear what type of "wireless dongle" you mean.


> Sorry, it's for connection to a home router's wireless output.


> The laptop is *supposed* to have built-in wireless capability, but it's
> never been possible to get Linux to recognise it - and many people have
> tried!


OK. Probably a daft question, but: Does it work with 'another OS'? I ask
because I've disconnected the wireless port on my (linux) laptop, hence no
OS could possibly find or use it! :-)

Jim
Folderol (10.07.2019, 21:38)
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:13:01 +0100
Jim Lesurf <noise> wrote:

>In article <20190710113539.5053cc02@devuan>, Folderol
><general> wrote:
>OK. Probably a daft question, but: Does it work with 'another OS'? I ask
>because I've disconnected the wireless port on my (linux) laptop, hence no
>OS could possibly find or use it! :-)
>Jim


I don't have 'another OS'. I got the machine some years back supplied with no OS
installed. The last time I saw any other OS was Windows 95 (and that was one to
many).

Will
Jim Lesurf (11.07.2019, 10:23)
In article <20190710203814.270b7ed6@devuan>, Folderol
<general> wrote:
> >OK. Probably a daft question, but: Does it work with 'another OS'? I
> >ask because I've disconnected the wireless port on my (linux) laptop,
> >hence no OS could possibly find or use it! :-)
> >Jim


> I don't have 'another OS'. I got the machine some years back supplied
> with no OS installed. The last time I saw any other OS was Windows 95
> (and that was one to many).


So it might be that the hardware simply doesn't work or is internally
unconnected/flawed in some way.

In my laptop anyone opening it could see where I unlpugged its connections.
Have you looked insider yours? I have no idea if this *is* the reason, but
it might be as simple as a bad connection.

Jim
William Unruh (11.07.2019, 10:33)
On 2019-07-10, Folderol <general> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:13:01 +0100
> Jim Lesurf <noise> wrote:
> I don't have 'another OS'. I got the machine some years back supplied with no OS
> installed. The last time I saw any other OS was Windows 95 (and that was one to
> many).


What is the wireless card that is installed? Can you see any trace of it
in
lsusb, lspci, or in looking through the boot process in dmesg?
Folderol (11.07.2019, 18:36)
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 09:23:17 +0100
Jim Lesurf <noise> wrote:

>In article <20190710203814.270b7ed6@devuan>, Folderol
><general> wrote:
>So it might be that the hardware simply doesn't work or is internally
>unconnected/flawed in some way.
>In my laptop anyone opening it could see where I unlpugged its connections.
>Have you looked insider yours? I have no idea if this *is* the reason, but
>it might be as simple as a bad connection.
>Jim

I've never opened it up - not entirely sure how to get into it either. The
battery is a lump that plugs into the back.
Folderol (11.07.2019, 18:41)
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 08:33:59 -0000 (UTC)
William Unruh <unruh> wrote:

>On 2019-07-10, Folderol <general> wrote:
>What is the wireless card that is installed? Can you see any trace of it
>in
>lsusb, lspci, or in looking through the boot process in dmesg?


lspci lists it as an Intel one and iwconfig gives more information and
identifies it as iwlwifi

Trying other config commands returns nothing - not an error message, just a new
line.
Andy Burns (11.07.2019, 19:03)
Folderol wrote:

> lspci lists it as an Intel one and iwconfig gives more information and
> identifies it as iwlwifi


Then I would be amazed if it cannot work with linux (unless the card's
faulty) I do remember having to install/build intel wifi drivers from
source on early versions of Fedora, and provide firmware blobs, but that
was a decade or more ago, nowadays "it should just work".

What distro? Is it running NetworkManager?
Martin Gregorie (11.07.2019, 19:28)
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 17:36:24 +0100, Folderol wrote:

> I've never opened it up - not entirely sure how to get into it either.
> The battery is a lump that plugs into the back.


Disconnection from the mains and ethernet, mouse, etc. and removal of the
battery are the usual first steps. A web search for "MAKE MODEL
disassembly" is likely to tell you how to open it up. If that fails, try


Disassembly should be easy enough given a reasonable collection of
standard and cross-point screwdrivers and something to put the (numerous)
screws in as you remove them. If some of the screws differ in diameter of
length, you may want to make a note of where they came from.
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